[RPPTL-constructionlaw] listserve communications
Krista Brindle
krista at andrewepstein.com
Tue Aug 9 08:55:03 PDT 2011
I agree, but then, I started this whole debate with my question yesterday,
so I might be somewhat biased. I belong to a couple of other very active
listservs on other areas of law and I have learned so much from the
discussions between the members.
Krista L. Brindle, Esq.
Andrew S. Epstein, P.A.
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of
Schulman,Beth-Ann
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:48 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] listserve communications
It is not that difficult to hit the delete button and I think the benefits
of the dialogue outweigh the burden of deleting unwanted emails.
Just my two cents.
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Leiby
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:10 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] listserve communications
There have been complaints in the past about the time to review such
communication when members feel that they are not interested in the topic.
I also see the other educational point of view and defer to our chair, Herr
Tritt, to establish policy.
My prior understanding was that there was concern expressed by some members
about being bombarded on a topic.
There is also the issue that some members may respond privately if they are
concerned about others seeing the response (for various reasons), which is
an option at any time if the e-mail address is given (otherwise to be looked
up).
Perhaps the initial question (which obviously goes to the entire list) and
any first responses (to go to the list), with further discussion on the
issue being either:
1) public to all on the list, using discretion to not oversaturate.
2) limited to the people communicating person to person.
Members can always choose the person to person communication.
I thought that we had addressed this issue in the past but I dont find any
record of it.
Herr Tritt? Executive decision or meeting agenda item?
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby at mkpalaw.com
Board Certified in Construction Law
Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric
Belsky
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:32 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Timeliness of Amended Claim of Lien
Personally, I enjoy reading these back-and-forth dialogues and really
appreciate being included on the mailing list! The discussion is always
lively and enlightening (even if purely academic) and on almost all
occasions these exchanges tend to be pertinent to either something Im
working on, something Ive got on the back-burner, or something likely to
present itself in the future (which is why I save these discussions in my
Legal Research folder for future reference). :-) Of course, if its
something I genuinely have no interest in whatsoever, simply hitting the
Delete button is no great hardship... Thanks!
Leiter || Belsky
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Tom
McKeel
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:08 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Timeliness of Amended Claim of Lien
For what it is worth, I enjoy and benefit from the questions and answers.
The reading is like a continuing CLE.
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<mailto:%5bmailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org%5d> On
Behalf Of Larry Leiby
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Timeliness of Amended Claim of Lien
Krista,
I dont think that you are crazy, but I think that the trial court was
correct. In Hayutin the amended claim of lien was recorded more than 90
days after the date of last work recited in the amended claim of lien.
You still may be able to argue that you are prejudiced by the amendment, if
you can prove any prejudice. The lienor must still prove that it worked up
to the date alleged in the amended claim of lien, which work was not
warranty work.
Suggestion: When you ask a question like this you should include your
personal e-mail address so that responses need not go to all members of the
committee.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby at mkpalaw.com
Board Certified in Construction Law
Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<mailto:%5bmailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org%5d> On
Behalf Of Krista Brindle
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:14 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Timeliness of Amended Claim of Lien
Hi all,
I got a bad ruling this afternoon and I was wondering if any of you know of
some awesome caselaw that is on point off the top of your head
heres the
facts:
Plaintiff filed Claim of Lien on May 28, 2009, alleging the last work was
done on March 4, 2009.
Plaintiff filed an Amended Claim of Lien on April 7, 2010, alleging the last
work was done on March 2, 2010, but specifically stating that it was being
filed to amend the claim of lien from 09.
Plaintiff filed suit to foreclose the Amended Claim of Lien on March 30,
2011.
We filed a Motion to Dismiss for the Defendant, stating that the Amended
Claim of Lien was way too late, pursuant to §713.08(4)(b) and the case of
Hayutin v. Cochran Const. Co., Inc.
The Judge denied the Motion to Dismiss stating that since the Plaintiff was
amending the last date of work performed, and since the amended claim of
lien was filed within 90 days of that new date, then it was timely.
This seems to completely gut the statute and goes against the whole
strictly construed creature of statute claim of lien law that I had
learned. Am I crazy and the Judge is right or is she off base and I should
be filing a Motion for Rehearing as soon as I can?
Thanks in advance for all your help, all you wonderful brilliant people!
Krista L. Brindle, Esq.
Andrew S. Epstein, P.A.
2120 McGregor Boulevard
Fort Myers, Florida 33901
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