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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Good Morning Bruce,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you for the thoughts. However, the post to which you responded was an errant repost – that I did not initiate. (weird)<span style="mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As to resolution of the case, the owner and GC reached an agreement without need for judicial determination.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As to the municipal permitting procedure, I believe the same was created to allow for municipal convenience in issuing permits, with no thought as to the legal implications
of permitting relationships. <span style="mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Good clean fun!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks again.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060">Paul J. Kelly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul J. Kelly, P.A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2959 First Avenue North<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">St. Petersburg, Florida 33713<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>RPPTL CLC-Discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 17, 2023 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org' <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] GC Permit vs Owner Subs and liability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">And was the scope of the Owner’s separate contractors (since they’re not really subs) within the GC’s original contracted and permitted scope of work? Or was
their work excluded from it explicitly? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Bruce Partington | Shareholder</span></strong><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Board Certified Specialist in Construction Law</span></strong></span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>RPPTL CLC-Discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 17, 2023 9:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] GC Permit vs Owner Subs and liability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Few questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"HelveticaNeue",serif;color:black">Did the GC know that subs were pulling permits under their permit?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If so, are there any documented notices directly from the GC directing the owner to cease such behavior?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are there any notices from the GC directing the subcontractors to refrain from performing any work under the GC license?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe some answers to these questions would help with understanding the ‘course of conduct’, and possibly eliminate most of the gray areas with the owner’s and subcontractor’s expectations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 3:20 PM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">CLC, this issue seems familiar, but I can’t locate an email thread.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Does anyone have that thread, or any thoughts on the issue below? Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><u><span style="color:black">Facts:
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">
Owner engages General Contractor (“GC”) for commercial construction project.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">
GC obtains the necessary Building Permit.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">
Owner independently engages “sub” contractors for certain subcontract work (direct privity between Owner and Owner’s Subs – GC not involved.)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">
The municipality in which the project is taking place uses a single permit system.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Subcontractors merely fill out and submit a Subcontractor Job Card, which references the GC’s permit #.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo3">
All work performed by subcontractors takes place under that GC’s permit #. <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="color:black">GC did not authorize those subcontractors engaged by the Owner to work under his permit, but, given the municipality’s single permit system, they ended up under his permit by default. (No grant of authority or sign off by the GC is
required.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Owner’s direct privity contractors produce deficient work within their scope.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7">
Owner now claims that GC is responsible for the deficient work of Owner’s Contractors because GC obtained building permit.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><u>Question:</u></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is a general contractor liable for deficiencies in, or remediation of, the work of subcontractors who were engaged by and in direct privity with the property owner, if those subcontractors
obtained permitting<a href="https://link.edgepilot.com/s/584bcf4f/WBAE3Cz-_0yZ7_P-JvaXEQ?u=https://www.google.com/maps/search/2959%2BFirst%2BAvenue%2BNorth%2B%250D%250A%2BSt.%2BPetersburg%2C%2BFlorida%2B33713?entry=gmail%26source=g">
</a>under the general contractors permit? Case law is welcome. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#002060">Paul J. Kelly</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Paul J. Kelly, P.A.<o:p></o:p></p>
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