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<p class="MsoNormal">There are MANY subcontractors who do NOT need to be licensed for 1-2 family residential jobs (see “Jim Walter” exemption)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You likely need to draft the contract carefully if one prime is “supervising / overseeing” other primes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The owner may hire multiple prime contractors without needing a construction license. Each contractor (that you labeled as “subcontractors”) would need to be licensed in its field in order to contract to do
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Does anyone have insight regarding certain licensing issues (described below) arising from the following
<u>potential</u> contracting arrangement:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span style="color:#1F497D">The owner (who is not a licensed entity) of a multi-family residential property would enter into a contract with a construction management company (a licensed
general contractor), whereby the general contractor would oversee/supervise various aspects of construction, including management activities related to subcontractors.
</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span style="color:#1F497D">However, the owner—not the general contractor—would enter into the underlying subcontracts with various subcontractors, where the scopes of work of many
of these subcontractors would require a license (electrical, plumbing, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think it is clear that construction management activities would require a license, but I am wondering whether Owner’s “contracting” with the subcontractors directly might sufficiently trigger the following
licensing exemptions under chapter 489: either (1) the “Big Boy” exemption under section 489.119(7) or (2) the “Developer” exemption under §489.105(6) (I borrow the above “Big Boy” and “Developer” descriptions from
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Mr. Klingen’s informative article from the Florida Bar website</a>). I think that the two above exemptions may be subject to a few of the following issues under the above potential contracting arrangement:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6"><span style="color:#1F497D">With respect to the “Big Boy” exemption, the main issue would appear to be whether the construction manager would qualify under the “employ” language of
the statute. In other words, does this provision require that the licensed individual (company?) be employed as W-2 employee as opposed to an independent contractor—or borrowing from chapter 489’s definition of “employee”, must be “a person who receives compensation
from and is under the supervision and control of an employer who regularly deducts the F.I.C.A. and withholding tax and provides workers’ compensation, all as prescribed by law.”?</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6"><span style="color:#1F497D">With respect to the “Developer” exemption under §489.105(6), the main issue would appear to be whether this exemption could apply to the owner and subcontractor
subcontract, or if that exemption is limited to contracts that involves the selling the completed residences.
</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Any help/guidance you may have would be greatly. Appreciated; thank you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_GoBack"></a><span style="color:#1F497D">Johnathan Ayers, Esq.
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