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<p class="MsoNormal">Agreed. My first thought on e-recording is: When I use SimpliFile or Record Fast, I know I’m charged by them, but do they remit fees the clerk on submission at that time or do they remit weekly, monthly…. Etc. Would that change the
result, i.e. if I e-submit on the 23<sup>rd</sup>, 90 days is the 26<sup>th</sup>, and simplifile sends batch payments to the clerk on the 30<sup>th</sup>.
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s a fair and equitable result for the lienor given the facts involved and congrats to Mark for reviving his client’s Lien. However, this is a case in my opinion where a simple PCA would have been preferable. The holding injects unpredictability
and uncertainty into title review and lien priority. Formerly, one could look at the filings in the Official Records and rely on them for purposes of determining facial validity of a Lien and date of attachment of the Lien (especially for liens of professional
lienors that don’t relate back to an earlier NOC). Now, it seems to me, one has to account for the possibility that though the lien was recorded on x date, payment may have been tendered on y date (which is not part of the readily available Official Records)
and the lien may actually attach several days or a week earlier than shown in the Official Records. Besides being the difference between an enforceable and an unenforceable lien, it also can impact lien priority and clear title under certain circumstances.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The advent of e-recording won’t in my experience reduce the likelihood of there being differences between the date of tender of payment and date of recording. Electronic filing queues in some counties result in e-recording several days
after submission and tender of payment. The uncertainty for title insurers, lenders and purchasers will produce some new claims and keep us busy but will frustrate commercial actors looking for clarity and efficiency in real property transactions. One possible
solution to the issue would be passage of legislation requiring the Clerk to reflect a recording date for a Lien equivalent to the date and time of receipt of tender of payment. Clerks seem to manage back dating litigation filings that are initially received
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually, Pritchett Trucking, the lienor, is represented by Mark Bryan at Lippes & Bryan. It’s Pritchett’s lien which was at issue. TD Farrell Construction, Travelers, and K.T. Carter Contracting would probably have preferred the Clerk’s
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<p class="MsoNormal">While I would like to take credit for sending this case out and alerting y’all, it really belongs to Barry Kalmanson, who submitted an Amicus brief on behalf of his client, Zoom Liens, and my client, National Association of Credit Management,
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for the case holding itself, kudos to the Appellees attorneys:
<span style="font-size:10.0pt">Don Niesen and Ryan Sullivan of Niesen, Price, Worthy, Campo, P.A., Gainesville, for Appellee K.T. Carter Contracting, Inc.; Jonathon D. Pressley and J.D. Humphries, III of Smith Gambrell & Russell, LLP, Jacksonville, for Appellees
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [CLC-Discussion] [Discussion] 1st DCA Opinion on Clerk's Mandatory Obligation to Record Construction Lien as of Date of Payment for Recording<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting recent case holding Clerk of Court must show recording date of Construction Lien as of the date payment is received for recording cost, even if there is a delay in the actual recording.<o:p></o:p></p>
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