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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F3864'>It also depends on who signs the NOC: if the fee simple owner signs the NOC, all controversy is removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar </span></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue'>Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:navy'>1460 Wood Row Way <br>Wellington, FL 33414 <br>Telephone: (561) 753-7511 <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue'><a href="Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com"><span style='color:blue'>Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#747170'>Confidentiality Notice: This communication is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. It is legally privileged (including attachments) and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(ies) to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us so that we may take the appropriate action and avoid troubling you further. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please destroy this message, and any attachments, and notify the sender by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. </span></b><span style='color:#1F3864'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>RPPTL CLC-Discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 9, 2020 1:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] FW: NTO Timing - A133 Precon Services<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Interesting question. IMO, a contractor (as opposed to an A/E) during the design phase performing precon services under an A133 (<i>e.g..,</i> VE design reviews, constructability reviews, and pricing exercises) is not performing a lienable service as a contractor since it is not building any permanent improvement on Owner’s property. Assuming no early release or early start permit outside of the GMP Amendment, I agree that the GMP Amendment would function as the stand in for the normal A101 or A102 construction contract and actual construction phase services would flow from the execution of that document. As far as serving the NTO, many contractors improving leasehold space do not serve the NTO and operate on the belief that, in the absence of a 713.10 recorded instrument, they enjoy lien rights against the fee simple interest. I would be interested if anyone has any caselaw on the subject of whether a contractor must serve a NTO on a fee owner in order to enjoy lien rights against the fee simple interest in instances where the GC/CM has a contract with the tenant but not the fee owner and no 713.10 instrument has been recorded (and improvements are the “pith” of the lease). It’s been years since I last reviewed pith of the lease caselaw and I don’t remember seeing discussions of the GC having to serve a NTO on the fee owner in order to have lien rights (where improvements are the pith of the lease and no 713.10 instrument recorded).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="96%" style='width:96.66%;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:54.75pt'><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:54.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#63AD6D'>Michael Gibbons</span></b><br><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Shareholder</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>215 N. Eola Dr. | Orlando, FL 32801</span><br><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>D: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>407.418.6378</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt'>| <b>P:</b></span><b> </b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>407.843.4600 </span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><a href="mailto:Michael.Gibbons@lowndes-law.com" title="Click to send email to Gibbons, Michael"><span style='color:black'>Email</span></a></span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>| <a href="http://lowndes-law.com"><span style='color:black'>Website</span></a></span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>| <a href="lowndes-law.com/people/Michael-Gibbons"><span style='color:black'>Bio</span></a></span><b> </b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>| <a href="https://lowndeslaw.dpmlocal.com/admin/vcard/generate.php?id=64"><span style='color:black'>VCard</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:24.0pt'><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:24.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=141 height=23 style='width:1.4687in;height:.2395in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01D69E42.B1F39890"></span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:18.75pt'><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:18.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>LOCAL ROOTS. BROAD REACH. </span></b><b><sup><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>SM</span></sup></b><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>RPPTL CLC-Discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 9, 2020 12:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] FW: NTO Timing - A133 Precon Services<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:red'>CAUTION: THIS IS AN EXTERNAL EMAIL <o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have a contractor client that has signed an AIA-A133 for a project in Central Florida. The contractor’s client is the lessee of a long term ground lease upon which the project will be constructed. The ground lease has no prohibition on liens and requires construction of the project. Precon work has commenced under the A133. The GMP Amendment (indicating commencement of the construction phase) has not been prepared or signed. To preserve its lien rights against the fee simple interest of the Landlord, does the contractor need to serve a NTO on the Landlord within 45 days of commencing precon work or can that wait until the construction phase commences with the execution of the GMP Amendment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=720 style='width:7.5in;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 15.0pt 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=240 valign=top style='width:2.5in;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 style='width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' id=IMG1 src="cid:~WRD1106.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender. 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