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on family members…..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Weintraub, Lee<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Vega <DVega@TEVTLaw.com>; Barry Kalmanson <bkpa1@aol.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your daughter did. Case law on the subject discusses the complexity of determining property title and calculating the correct lien amount. That is why it’s unauthorized practice of law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Vega<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barry Kalmanson <bkpa1@aol.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What does prepare the lien mean? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My 15 year old daughter can take the form in the statute and fill the blanks with the info provided by a client. The client then signs it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Barry Kalmanson <<a href="mailto:bkpa1@aol.com">bkpa1@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">As far as the execution of liens the word "attorney" was removed from the statute in 1977. Now Section 713.08(2) does not provide authority for an attorney to execute liens
unless the attorney happens to be "acquainted with the facts stated therein." This highly unlikely unless the attorney also works as an employee of the lienor. This makes a fun day in a deposition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">As far as releases go any individual with authority (including attorneys) can execute releases. Section 713.20 does not include a limitation on who can sign the releases
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Under Section 713.08(2) the discussion becomes much more interesting as to who can prepare the liens . Many throughout the state that
are not permitted are preparing liens. This is clearly the unlicensed practice of law. The Florida Bar has sent cease and desist letters to various companies and non-lawyer individuals for preparing liens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Bruce Partington <<a href="mailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com">bpartington@clarkpartington.com</a>><br>
To: Jeffrey Price <<a href="mailto:jeff@npw-law.com">jeff@npw-law.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">For what it’s worth, and 692 is part of it, it’s been my policy for years never to sign liens or releases on behalf of clients. Another reason is that the jurat is
taking an oath that what is in it is true, and I think it’s best that clients do that. (A release would formally probably only require an acknowledgement, but a lien definitely requires a jurat).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy;background:yellow">instruments conveying</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy;background:white">, mortgaging, or
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common or corporate seal and signed in its name by its president or any vice president or chief executive officer. Assignments, satisfactions, or partial releases of mortgages and acquittances for debts may be similarly executed by any corporate officer. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">But, read carefully, that only applies to acknowledgements, not jurats, because pretty much all instruments affecting any interests in lands, except a construction
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<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeffrey Price<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Delivered a partial lien release for a single condo where client has a lien on the entire complex. This was the 6<sup>th</sup> at this condo for routine sales (Miami-Dade)
and was no different that the other 5 (or other 20-some in the last 6 months on other complexes). The release was prepared by me (Attorney for Lienor), signed by me as “Agent/Attorney for Lienor.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Got into a dispute about the release form (not the amount). First they wanted the jurat changed to duplicate the language as of Jan. 1, 2020 (despite the statute
saying the jurat “must be in substantially the following form”). Whatever. Fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">But then this is forwarded to me. I called “Connie” but because I am not a member of “The Fund” she refused to discuss anything and hung up the phone. (You that have
dealt with me can understand, hell, I don’t even like talking to me in a mirror).
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