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What does prepare the lien mean?
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<div>My 15 year old daughter can take the form in the statute and fill the blanks with the info provided by a client. The client then signs it. </div>
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<div>Who prepared the lien? <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Barry Kalmanson <bkpa1@aol.com> wrote:<br>
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<div>As far as the execution of liens the word "attorney" was removed from the statute in 1977. Now Section 713.08(2) does not provide authority for an attorney to execute liens unless the attorney happens to be "acquainted with the facts stated therein." This
highly unlikely unless the attorney also works as an employee of the lienor. This makes a fun day in a deposition.</div>
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<div>As far as releases go any individual with authority (including attorneys) can execute releases. Section 713.20 does not include a limitation on who can sign the releases of lien. </div>
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<div>Under Section 713.08(2) the discussion becomes much more interesting as to who can prepare the liens . Many throughout the state that are not permitted are preparing liens. This is clearly the unlicensed practice of law. The Florida Bar has sent cease
and desist letters to various companies and non-lawyer individuals for preparing liens.<br>
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To: Jeffrey Price <jeff@npw-law.com>; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org><br>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">For what it’s worth, and 692 is part of it, it’s been my policy for years never to sign liens or releases on behalf of clients. Another reason is that the jurat is taking
an oath that what is in it is true, and I think it’s best that clients do that. (A release would formally probably only require an acknowledgement, but a lien definitely requires a jurat).</span></div>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">I think the beginning of 692.01 makes it relatively clear:</span></div>
<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="background: white; color: navy; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Any corporation may execute
<span style="background: yellow;">instruments conveying</span>, mortgaging, or <span style="background: yellow;">
affecting any interest in lands</span> by instruments sealed with the common or corporate seal and signed in its name by its president or any vice president or chief executive officer. Assignments, satisfactions, or partial releases of mortgages and acquittances
for debts may be similarly executed by any corporate officer. </span><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">But, read carefully, that only applies to acknowledgements, not jurats, because pretty much all instruments affecting any interests in lands, except a construction lien,
require only an acknowledgement. </span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?</div>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal">Delivered a partial lien release for a single condo where client has a lien on the entire complex. This was the 6<sup>th</sup> at this condo for routine sales (Miami-Dade) and was no different that the other 5 (or other 20-some
in the last 6 months on other complexes). The release was prepared by me (Attorney for Lienor), signed by me as “Agent/Attorney for Lienor.” </div>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal">Got into a dispute about the release form (not the amount). First they wanted the jurat changed to duplicate the language as of Jan. 1, 2020 (despite the statute saying the jurat “must be in substantially the following form”).
Whatever. Fine.</div>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal">But then this is forwarded to me. I called “Connie” but because I am not a member of “The Fund” she refused to discuss anything and hung up the phone. (You that have dealt with me can understand, hell, I don’t even like talking
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal"><b>Question</b> – has anyone ever heard of this line of reasoning? Does 692 have anything to do with 713 liens and releases?</div>
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<div class="yiv5527013830MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 14pt;">“The release is signed an agent of a Florida corporation. Under Sec. 692.01, F.S., a corporate officer may sign partial releases of mortgages and acquittances for debts. There is no authority
for anyone other than a corporate officer to sign such a document.”<span style="color: rgb(47, 84, 150);"></span></span></i></div>
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