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No. But she can copy the legal from the notice of commencement <br>
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<div>Daniel R. Vega, Esq.</div>
<div>Florida Board Certified in Construction Law</div>
<div>Florida Supreme Court Certified Circuit Court Mediator</div>
<div>Taylor Espino Vega & Touron, PLLC</div>
<div>201 Alhambra Circle, Suite 801</div>
<div>Coral Gables, Florida 33134</div>
<div>Telephone: (305) 443-2043</div>
<div>Facsimile: (305) 443-2048</div>
<div>Cell: (305) 962-5186</div>
<div>E-mail: dvega@tevtlaw.com </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Reese J. Henderson, Jr. <Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com> wrote:<br>
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<font style="font-weight:bold;">Reese J. Henderson, Jr.</font><font style="font-weight:bold;"> |
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<font style="font-family:Georgia;font-weight:bold;">Florida Bar Board Certified in Construction Law</font><br>
<font style="font-family:Georgia;font-weight:bold;">Florida Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator</font><br>
<strong><font color="maroon">G R A Y</font> | <font color="#53565a">R O B I N S O N</font></strong><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Reese J. Henderson, Jr. <Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com>; Dan Vega <DVega@TEVTLaw.com>; Barry Kalmanson <bkpa1@aol.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Take a look at SC13-889. It may be helpful. Deals with property mangers but seems very instruction and has a lot behind it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>> on behalf of Reese J. Henderson,
 Jr. <<a href="mailto:Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com">Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:09:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Vega <<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>>; Barry Kalmanson <<a href="mailto:bkpa1@aol.com">bkpa1@aol.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?</span> <o:p>
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 or any layperson for that matter, appreciate the gravity and potential ramifications of making an error in the calculation of the lien amount (i.e., fraudulent lien exposure)?  Preparing a lien is hardly a trivial task.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Vega<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barry Kalmanson <<a href="mailto:bkpa1@aol.com">bkpa1@aol.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">What does prepare the lien mean?   <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">My 15 year old daughter can take the form in the statute and fill the blanks with the info provided by a client.  The client then signs it.   <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Who prepared the lien? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Daniel R. Vega, Esq.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Florida Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Florida Supreme Court Certified Circuit Court Mediator<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Taylor Espino Vega & Touron, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">201 Alhambra Circle, Suite 801<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Coral Gables, Florida 33134<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Telephone: (305) 443-2043<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Facsimile: (305) 443-2048<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Cell: (305) 962-5186<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">E-mail: <a href="mailto:dvega@tevtlaw.com">dvega@tevtlaw.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Barry Kalmanson <<a href="mailto:bkpa1@aol.com">bkpa1@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">As far as the execution of liens the word "attorney" was removed from the statute in 1977. Now Section 713.08(2) does not provide authority for an attorney to execute liens
 unless the attorney happens to be "acquainted with the facts stated therein." This highly unlikely unless the attorney also works as an employee of the lienor.  This makes a fun day in a deposition.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Under Section 713.08(2) the discussion becomes much more interesting as to who can prepare the liens . Many throughout the state that
 are not permitted are preparing liens. This is clearly the unlicensed practice of law.  The Florida Bar has sent cease and desist letters to various companies and non-lawyer individuals for preparing liens.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Bruce Partington <<a href="mailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com">bpartington@clarkpartington.com</a>><br>
To: Jeffrey Price <<a href="mailto:jeff@npw-law.com">jeff@npw-law.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">
clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>><br>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 10:24 am<br>
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">For what it’s worth, and 692 is part of it, it’s been my policy for years never to sign liens or releases on behalf of clients. Another reason is that the jurat
 is taking an oath that what is in it is true, and I think it’s best that clients do that. (A release would formally probably only require an acknowledgement, but a lien definitely requires a jurat).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I think the beginning of 692.01 makes it relatively clear:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeffrey Price<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Who can sign liens and releases?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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 and was no different that the other 5 (or other 20-some in the last 6 months on other complexes). The release was prepared by me (Attorney for Lienor), signed by me as “Agent/Attorney for Lienor.”  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Got into a dispute about the release form (not the amount). First they wanted the jurat changed to duplicate the language as of Jan. 1, 2020 (despite the statute
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">But then this is forwarded to me. I called “Connie” but because I am not a member of “The Fund” she refused to discuss anything and hung up the phone. (You that
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<p class="xmsonormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">“The release is signed an agent of a Florida corporation.  Under Sec. 692.01, F.S.,  a corporate officer may sign partial releases of mortgages and acquittances
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