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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Barry Kalmanson <bkpa1@aol.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Reese J. Henderson, Jr. <Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com>; jack@wclfirm.com; ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Quick Question Regarding F.S. 713.18<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Reese J. Henderson, Jr. <<a href="mailto:Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com">Reese.Henderson@gray-robinson.com</a>><br>
To: Barry Kalmanson <<a href="mailto:bkpa1@aol.com">bkpa1@aol.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:jack@wclfirm.com">
jack@wclfirm.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jack@wclfirm.com">jack@wclfirm.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com">
ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com">ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 11:48 am<br>
Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Quick Question Regarding F.S. 713.18<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">What creates ambiguity in subsection (3) is that subsection (1)(c) (that says service “must be made by one of the following methods”) requires posting the NTO on
 the jobsite “if service as provided by paragraph (a) or paragraph (b) cannot be accomplished.”  When would that ever be true if you could simply rely on the “mailbox rule” of subsection (3)?  I think I would advise the client against reliance on the “mailbox
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Kalmanson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:17 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Quick Question Regarding F.S. 713.18</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: jack <<a href="mailto:jack@wclfirm.com" target="_blank">jack@wclfirm.com</a>><br>
To: 'Adam C. Linkhorst' <<a href="mailto:ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com" target="_blank">ACL@floridahardhatlaw.com</a>>; clc-discussion <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black">
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam C. Linkhorst<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 5, 2019 4:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank">
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<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Quick Question Regarding F.S. 713.18</span><span style="font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black">Quick question regarding service under F.S. 713.18:</span><span style="font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black">Last week we had a judge rule on summary judgment that a Notice to Owner which was mailed via certified mail to the address listed in the Notice of Commencement and
 which was returned as “undeliverable” was ineffective and that the subcontractor was then required to try to either obtain personal service or post the NTO on site for there to be effective service.  Based upon a plain reading of the statute I think the judge
 erred, but there is a dearth of cases on this issue.  Any suggestions are appreciated.</span><span style="font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black">Thanks, Adam</span><span style="font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:top"><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black">Adam C. Linkhorst, Esq.</span></i></b><span style="font-family:"New serif",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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