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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good point. If anyone is interested in writing for ActionLine on this, please let me, Cary Wright, Brett Henson or Kellie Humphries know. We would love to get you published (anyone except Dan!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>William J. Tinsley, Jr. (7590)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jeffrey Price' <jeff@npw-law.com>; Dan Vega <DVega@TEVTLaw.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Just a thought</span></i><span style="color:#1F497D">: With all the genuine effort and time put into these e-mails concerning this topic over the past few days, I respectfully suggest that someone with a
vested interest in this topic now has plenty of material and diverse opinions to draft a timely and worthwhile article. In fact, it might be interesting just to string the e-mails together (with some minor edits) for publication. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks to all who participated. I agree that it is an issue that needs to be resolved. Plus, I have enjoyed reading the e-mails.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeffrey Price<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Vega<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan: Really?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So “small Mom & Pop Construction companies” should be free to act in whatever manner they see fit so long as it saves them money?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Mom & Pop Qualifier had to become licensed and then take 14 hours of CE. Where (at least in our classes) they are told in the 1 hr. Laws and Regulations and the 1 hr. Business Practices sections that they need to file an NTO, and if
not paid, a lien within 90 days of their last day of work. They think they are owed, let’s say, $5,000. So, they figure paying $50 to an NTO company for a lien is a good bet as opposed to paying $250 to a local attorney who just might ask some questions that
saves them terrific heartache in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mom & Pop are acting in their best interests. Well, Mom & Pop deserve whatever happens to them and their lien.
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<p class="MsoNormal">And the NTO company? They have a limitation of liability saying the extent of the damages they may cause is the $50. I wish I could get that deal. Oh, wait. I’m not allowed to sign a contract that limits my professional liability.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s look closely at what a NTO company brings to the table:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mom & Pop provide all the information for the NTO – if its wrong, too bad.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The NTO company puts that information, good, bad or indifferent, on a statutory form and mails it only to the people Mom & Pop identified.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Did they confirm anything? No. Is the actual Owner correct? Maybe, maybe not.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Did they limit their liability to the $35 cost of the service? Yes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Are they anything other than a mail forwarding service? No.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now you want the NTO people to do a lien? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Where do they get their information? How do they confirm it? Do Mom & Pop get the presumption that the law allows that the lien is correct? Any safe-harbor?
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you want to run a construction business, then run it right. If Mom & Pop’s margins are so tight they can’t afford a lawyer for the occasional lien, they have priced themselves out of the market and out of business. If they have numerous
liens, they are doing something really wrong and could use some legal advice. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dan Vega [<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeffrey Price <<a href="mailto:jeff@npw-law.com">jeff@npw-law.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Robert Worman <<a href="mailto:rworman@wormanlaw.com">rworman@wormanlaw.com</a>>; Fred Barnes <<a href="mailto:fred@fcbarneslaw.com">fred@fcbarneslaw.com</a>>; Brown, Gary L. <<a href="mailto:gary.brown@saul.com">gary.brown@saul.com</a>>; Larry Leiby
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All that will do is hurt small Mom and pop construction companies.
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On Dec 13, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Jeffrey Price <<a href="mailto:jeff@npw-law.com">jeff@npw-law.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Harrumph! I agree.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is in the best interests of our profession and the public to weed out these NTO companies who abuse the UPL rules and this is easy to do.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Florida Bar Board Certified - Construction Law <br>
Florida Civil-law Notary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fred Barnes <<a href="mailto:fred@fcbarneslaw.com">fred@fcbarneslaw.com</a>>; 'Brown, Gary L.' <<a href="mailto:gary.brown@saul.com">gary.brown@saul.com</a>>; 'Larry Leiby' <<a href="mailto:Leiby@mkpalaw.com">Leiby@mkpalaw.com</a>>; 'Charles B. Hernicz,
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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Inc. in trying to improve construction lien, bond and related legislation. For years I have advised my client that it cannot prepare or liens and NNP’s, all the while seeing other NTO companies doing so with relative impunity. The most recent instances brought
out by Barry Kalmanson may only be the tip of the iceberg.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While I do not want to beat this topic to death, it seems to me this is one of those issues where we have an ethical obligation to report to The Bar when we see instances of this type of unauthorized practice of law. Maybe the CLC should
have a subcommittee created to act as a clearing house our members can contact to report on instances where they run across liens or NNP’s that appear to be the result of the unauthorized practice of law. This subcommittee could review for probable cause,
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred Barnes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Brown, Gary L.' <<a href="mailto:gary.brown@saul.com">gary.brown@saul.com</a>>; 'Larry Leiby' <<a href="mailto:Leiby@mkpalaw.com">Leiby@mkpalaw.com</a>>; 'Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.' <<a href="mailto:Chernicz@herniczlegal.com">Chernicz@herniczlegal.com</a>>;
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fred Barnes; 'Larry Leiby'; 'Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.'; 'Dan Vega'; 'Weintraub, Lee'<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“Scienter”. Now that’s a term I haven’t heard since criminal law class in law school Fred! Thanks for that. Brought back great memories of the class and professor. One of my favorite classes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Larry Leiby'; 'Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.'; 'Dan Vega'; 'Weintraub, Lee'<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Let me chime in as a late-comer to the discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">It seems to me that there is no valid reason to invalidate the lien. The non-lawyer lien-preparer may be subject to prosecution for the unauthorized practice
of law, but what is the rational for penalizing the lienor? Aiding and abetting the unauthorized practice of law? I doubt scienter could be established.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Leiby<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.; 'Dan Vega'; 'Weintraub, Lee'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The issue is that the Florida Bar doesn’t want non lawyers giving legal advice. The landmark case on this was Florida Bar v Carmel. Where a notice company puts that they prepared the lien on the lien it is red meat for the Bar unlicensed
practice of law committee. That is why they simply put the customer’s name as preparer. A non lawyer can prepare a contract, or prepare a lien for itself. The notice companies, and anyone else, are prohibited from practicing law or giving legal advice to
others. Some notice companies refer requests for claim of lien to counsel to avoid the issue. Some notice companies simply prepare the lien for their customers, which is prohibited to the extent that the notice company makes legal decisions. Preparing a
claim of lien is fraught with legal decisions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I see the notice companies running afoul of the law, yet in many instances helping their customers. When they screw up it is going to come back to bite them. Also, any owner can claim that the lien is invalid due to being prepared by a
nonlawyer (if that is established, likely by deposition). Whether a court will invalidate such a lien is still an open question. The possibility is there.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy Holidays, Larry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Dan Vega' <<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>>; 'Weintraub, Lee' <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F3864">If the notice company informed those subs that Florida law prohibits notice companies from preparing claims of lien, they would likely reconsider relying on
the notice company for legal advice.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dan Vega [<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Weintraub, Lee <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. <<a href="mailto:Chernicz@herniczlegal.com">Chernicz@herniczlegal.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So if a non lawyer Non lienor drafts contract, and lienor signs it, the contract is not valid???
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<p class="MsoNormal">Guys, there are many subs who rely on the notice companies to perfect their claims, especially in South Florida. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As long as lienor signs the lien, the law presumes he/she read doc and agreed to it. Fact that lienor did not fill in blanks on a lien form, is inconsequential. On the other hand, invalidating a lien based on same may be catastrophic
to the lienor, its employees and the company as a whole. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Daniel R. Vega<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Taylor Espino Vega & Touron, P.A. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2555 Ponce De Leon Blvd., Suite 220<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Coral Gables, Florida 33134<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Telephone: (305) 443-2043<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Facsimile: (305) 443-2048<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cell: (305) 962-5186<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">E-mail: <a href="mailto:dvega@tevtlaw.com">dvega@tevtlaw.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Weintraub, Lee <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In litigation. They draft their own contracts all the time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dan Vega [<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Weintraub, Lee <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. <<a href="mailto:Chernicz@herniczlegal.com">Chernicz@herniczlegal.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Lienors are usually companies. Companies cannot rep themselves.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Daniel R. Vega<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Taylor Espino Vega & Touron, P.A. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2555 Ponce De Leon Blvd., Suite 220<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Coral Gables, Florida 33134<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Telephone: (305) 443-2043<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Facsimile: (305) 443-2048<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cell: (305) 962-5186<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">E-mail: <a href="mailto:dvega@tevtlaw.com">dvega@tevtlaw.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Weintraub, Lee <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Because a lienor, like any client, can represent itself (other than in litigation of course). But if a company holds itself out as an expert to others and receives compensation for its services, it needs to
know how to do it. NTO companies don’t know how to handle complex property title issues or figure out what’s lienable and what’s non-lienable, among other issues.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dan Vega [<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Weintraub, Lee <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. <<a href="mailto:Chernicz@herniczlegal.com">Chernicz@herniczlegal.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But if lienor prepares lien it’s ok? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Makes no sense <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Daniel R. Vega<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Taylor Espino Vega & Touron, P.A. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2555 Ponce De Leon Blvd., Suite 220<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Coral Gables, Florida 33134<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Telephone: (305) 443-2043<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Facsimile: (305) 443-2048<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cell: (305) 962-5186<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">E-mail: <a href="mailto:dvega@tevtlaw.com">dvega@tevtlaw.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 12, 2017, at 8:25 AM, Weintraub, Lee <<a href="mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com">lweintraub@bplegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="3d6c270c-3956-4543-a3af-6c1545225391" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The attorney general held it does matter. Drafting of liens requires legal analyses that could screw a lienor who relies upon such analysis performed by a non-lawyer. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Dec 12, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Dan Vega <<a href="mailto:DVega@TEVTLaw.com">DVega@TEVTLaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does it matter who prepares the lien form so long as lienor signs it?
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<p class="MsoNormal">The notice companies provide a valuable service to many small companies who otherwise would likely blow their lien rights. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Daniel R. Vega<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Taylor Espino Vega & Touron, P.A. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2555 Ponce De Leon Blvd., Suite 220<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Coral Gables, Florida 33134<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Telephone: (305) 443-2043<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Facsimile: (305) 443-2048<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cell: (305) 962-5186<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">E-mail: <a href="mailto:dvega@tevtlaw.com">dvega@tevtlaw.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. <<a href="mailto:Chernicz@herniczlegal.com">Chernicz@herniczlegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F3864">Notice companies in Florida regularly prepare claims of lien in violation of
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Section 713.08(2); now they jut put the company’s name in the “Return to” block but are still in clear violation of this prohibition.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue">Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:navy">1460 Wood Row Way
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Wellington, FL 33414 <br>
Telephone: (561) 753-7511 <br>
Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 <br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue"><a href="Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com">Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">
clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Kalmanson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 11, 2017 4:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Fwd: Online Lien Co. Hits Ohio State Bar With Antitrust Suit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Interesting reading attached regarding a company known as Zlien operating throughout Florida.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">After reading the opinion/agreement you may want to look at Section 713.08(2) Florida Statutes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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