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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">EXCEPT for the potential of “consumer harm” resulting from an incorrectly prepared or untimely filed Claim of Lien….it might not be the UPL. Perhaps these lay persons should just be required to maintain professional
liability insurance coverage for such malpractice, but I’m not sure who would issue such coverage….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Vega<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chuck, rigid interpretation of statutes to negate otherwise valid liens is not what the lien law intends to accomplish.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">An employee with no training and no high school diploma can prepare a lien but not a notice company (obviously in both cases the lienor will sign and be sworn)???
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<p class="MsoNormal">An employee with no training and no high school diploma can prepare a lien but that is ok and not the unauthorized practice of law? The employee is getting paid too.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Guys, what is the policy behind all of this?? If the lien is valid, timely, and accurate and the lienor deserves to be paid, are we going to strike the lien because it was prepared (signed by the lienor) but prepared by joe blow notice
co? And yet, the same valid lien prepared by a lay person employee is fine? <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That to me folks is an absurd result. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">Daniel R. Vega, Esq.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Charles B. Hernicz, Esq [<a href="mailto:CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com">mailto:CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Vega <<a href="mailto:DVega@tevtlaw.com">DVega@tevtlaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Wolf, Brian' <<a href="mailto:bawolf@smithcurrie.com">bawolf@smithcurrie.com</a>>; 'Michael J. Kurzman' <<a href="mailto:MKurzman@wsh-law.com">MKurzman@wsh-law.com</a>>; 'Alex Barthet' <<a href="mailto:Alex@barthet.com">Alex@barthet.com</a>>; 'Arnold
Tritt' <<a href="mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com">arnold.tritt@atritt.com</a>>; 'Willis, David' <<a href="mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com">dwillis@rumberger.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Dan, the statute allows preparation by the lienor, an “employee” of the lienor, or the lienor’s attorney. What you describe below is the unlicensed practice
of law by a notice company.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:navy">Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.<br>
</span><b><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue">Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:navy">15854 Bent Creek Road
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Wellington, FL 33414 <br>
Telephone: (561) 753-7511 <br>
Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 <br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue"><a href="Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com"><span style="color:blue">Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Dan Vega [<a href="mailto:DVega@tevtlaw.com">mailto:DVega@tevtlaw.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com">CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Wolf, Brian; Michael J. Kurzman; Alex Barthet; Arnold Tritt; Willis, David;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the lien is defective, it is defective. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are you all saying that a secretary at a subcontractors office cannot prepare the lien even though it is signed by the president of the sub? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If a notice company prepares the lien form based on info provided by the sub, and the sub president signs it, what is wrong w that? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Daniel R. Vega<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2555 Ponce De Leon Blvd., Suite 220<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Charles B. Hernicz, Esq <<a href="mailto:CHernicz@herniczlegal.com">CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">I agree Brian. Notice companies offer this and prepare liens all the time. I’ve had to deal with numerous defective liens from notice companies. This was
outlawed in 713.08 in 2007, but it is not being policed or enforced.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:navy">Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.<br>
</span><b><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue">Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:navy">15854 Bent Creek Road
<br>
Wellington, FL 33414 <br>
Telephone: (561) 753-7511 <br>
Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 <br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue"><a href="Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com"><span style="color:blue">Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Wolf, Brian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael J. Kurzman; 'Alex Barthet'; Arnold Tritt; Willis, David; <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">If the committee is going to address this issue, the committee should also address the larger problem of “lien notice services” offering to prepare claims of lien.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael J. Kurzman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Alex Barthet'; Arnold Tritt; Willis, David; <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Perhaps a letter to the Florida Attorney General’s office to see if they are interested in looking into the matter?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">It seems to me that if you can show they are using false and misleading information, the Attorney General may be interested…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Barthet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Arnold Tritt; Willis, David; <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><a name="_MailEndCompose">Arnie – I can’t argue with your logic about Grade A clients. Grade B clients help pay the bills and may be susceptible. Grade C clients, good riddance.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">That said, as officers of the court knowing that they are fraudulently inducing those in the construction industry to hire them with false promises, if there is something we can do, we probably should.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Arnold Tritt [<a href="mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com">mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Barthet <<a href="mailto:Alex@barthet.com">Alex@barthet.com</a>>; Willis, David <<a href="mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com">dwillis@rumberger.com</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: Texas Collection Agencies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. Grade A business / construction clients don’t forsake their relationship with their legal counsel and engage an out-of-state collection agency to collect on
a Claim of Lien based on a phone solicitation any more than Grade A business / construction clients engage an attorney in response to a radio spot. The Texas boys have been at it for years and your Grade A clients will always call you when they are contacted
by such folks. If your client was ever to be duped by such tactics it was not Grade A and should be dropped and referred to your competition. Just my thoughts. Arnie.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Barthet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Willis, David <<a href="mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com">dwillis@rumberger.com</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Willis, David [<a href="mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com">mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Barthet <<a href="mailto:Alex@barthet.com">Alex@barthet.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue">I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Barthet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing
from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (<a href="http://tuckeralbin.net/">http://tuckeralbin.net/</a>)
and Milton Myers and Assoc. (<a href="http://www.mmatx.net/">http://www.mmatx.net/</a>). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors
on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the
projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I look forward to hearing from the group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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