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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Larry, so a subcontractor can transfer its supplier’s lien to a bond but not a mortgage holder?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This result does not make practical sense.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Larry Leiby [mailto:Leiby@mkpalaw.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 04, 2013 3:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Vega; 'fred.dudley@hklaw.com'; blc@kirwinnorris.com; bkpa1@aol.com; hroberts@carltonfields.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off a construction lien?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dan,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The GC has an interest in the contract under which the lien is claimed, the other basis justifying transfer in 713.24.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Dan Vega [<a href="mailto:DVega@taylorvega.com">mailto:DVega@taylorvega.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 04, 2013 3:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'fred.dudley@hklaw.com'; <a href="mailto:blc@kirwinnorris.com">blc@kirwinnorris.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:bkpa1@aol.com">bkpa1@aol.com</a>; Larry Leiby; <a href="mailto:hroberts@carltonfields.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off a construction lien?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I just read below and for what it is worth, if a GC can transfer a lien to a bond per 713.24, why would a lender not be able to do it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">GC’s transfer liens to bonds all of the time. Practically speaking, every decent owner/gc contract requires the gc to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It can hardly be argued that a GC has an “interest” in the property greater than a mortgage holder/lender.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Taylor Vega, P.A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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bkpa1@aol.com</a>; <a href="mailto:Leiby@mkpalaw.com">Leiby@mkpalaw.com</a>; <a href="mailto:hroberts@carltonfields.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off a construction lien?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This is the statute that makes Florida a "lien theory" state rather than a "title theory" state like California. The lien (mortgage or construction) is NOT
an interest in real property.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off a construction lien?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just to kick this dead horse one more time, note that
<a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0697/Sections/0697.02.html">
Florida Statute Section 697.02</a> says, in its entirety, “Nature of a mortgage.—A mortgage shall be held to be a specific lien on the property therein described, and not a conveyance of the legal title or of the right of possession.” So, whether a lender
has an interest in real property sufficient to support a transfer-of-lien bond is apparently not a function/subject of case law alone. Who knew.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Kalmanson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:48 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lenderbond off aconstruction lien?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Maybe some legislative clarification is in order.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Barry Kalmanson<br>
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To: 'Roberts, Hardy L.' <<a href="mailto:hroberts@carltonfields.com">hroberts@carltonfields.com</a>>; 'Construction Law Discussion' <<a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off aconstruction lien?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with those who noted that a lender does not have an interest in property, instead it has a mortgage lien, and thus is not covered
under 713.24. However that is the tip of the iceberg and begs the question.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The concern that I have experienced is where the lender seeks to transfer the lien to bond but the bond form is not conditioned only
on proving the lien claim it is also conditioned on proving priority. That is not what 713.24 is about, and the clerks aren’t real students of 713.24 as they have many duties. If that happens the lienor should challenge any certificate of transfer.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So a lender is a little nuts wanting to transfer a lien under 713.24 without added language (which would not meet the requirements of
713.24), because then the lienor need only prove its lien claim and the condition of the bond is performed where the principal and surety on the bond are on the hook (assuming they didn’t sneak in any added language to the 713.24 bond form). The lender loses
its argument about the lien not having equity and being inferior to the mortgage by bonding it off and taking the property equity out of the equation. The lienor should be ecstatic about not being worried about the lender’s priority any more, but must watch
carefully the language in the bond. If the lender is looking to clear title for some reason of its own, it should not be the principal on the bond – only someone with an interest. If the lender gets cute and adds language to the bond, we have some new issues
to address, which I believe are not yet resolved. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thus if the lender uses a 713.24 bond to transfer it off, the question is: Is the lien really transferred off, or is the lien still
there along with the bond because the lender cannot meet the requirements of 713.24 by not having an interest in the property?
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Campo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Matthew Belcastro'; 'Raymond L. Robinson'; 'Gibbons, Michael'; 'Roberts, Hardy L.'; 'Construction Law Discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off aconstruction lien?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">As a practical matter, I would welcome a Lien Transfer Bond knowing that a pile of money is readily available for the taking should my client prevail on
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Florida Bar Board Certified - Construction Law <br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Belcastro<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Raymond L. Robinson; Gibbons, Michael; Roberts, Hardy L.; Construction Law Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] Can a construction lender bond off aconstruction lien?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I'm not sure I understand why the construction lender wants to bond off the lien? Are they trying to convert to permanent financing and
unable as a result of the construction lien? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Attorney at Law<br>
Henderson, Franklin, Starnes & Holt, P.A.<br>
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P.O. Box 280<br>
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Direct Dial: 239.344.1205<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes. The lender has “an interest” via its mortgage in the real property on which the lien is imposed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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