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<font style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Absent proof of delivery of the aluminum stock directly to the job site of the property to be liened the supplier lienor does not have the benefit of the statutory presumption
of "incorporation"...one of the essential elements of proof in a lien foreclosure action. So, unless the supplier has some direct proof that its materials were ACTUALLY incorporated (like manhole covers with the manuf name forged into it, etc.) the supplier
will be unable to prevail and is left to an adverse award of atty fees (and a possible malpractice claim agt its atty).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Leiby<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan P. Hatler; Andrea Fair; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] question re: supplier furnishing materialsto fabricator's warehouse</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I don’t have a case at the tip of my tongue but the words in the definition of materialman are what give me significant pause. Tracking the materials down later does not seem to comport with the statute. That
is why suppliers put job sites on counter pick up orders. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold"; color:#215868">Larry R. Leiby, Esq.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Malka & Kravitz, P.A. </span></b></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:21 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Tw Cen MT"; color:#1F497D">Wouldn’t the affidavit she prepared and the process she describes below to have her client track the material to particular job sites be sufficient to satisfy the requirements
of the statute?</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Leiby<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrea Fair; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CLC-Discussion] question re: supplier furnishing materialsto fabricator's warehouse</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">A Materialman who does not deliver to the site or sell for direct delivery to the site is not a materialman who has lien rights. See F.S. 713.01 (20). A materialman who sells to a fabricator with no understanding
that the materials are for a specific site has a problem with the definition of a lienor.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold"; color:#215868">Larry R. Leiby, Esq.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Malka & Kravitz, P.A. </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323</span></b></p>
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<a href="mailto:leiby@mkpalaw.com">leiby@mkpalaw.com</a></span></b></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org">clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a client who is a supplier. He furnishes aluminum to a fabricator at the fabricator’s warehouse. After the aluminum is fabricated into hurricane shutters, the materials are then delivered to various jobsites for incorporation into
the improvements. My client hasn’t been paid so, for all future deliveries, I have prepared an Affidavit for the fabricator to sign, testifying where the materials are going, who he has a contract with, who the GC is, who the owner is, and attaching the NOC.
He also knows he will need to monitor the situation to make sure the materials are actually delivered to and incorporated into the improvements (assuming the exception re: specially fabricated materials doesn’t apply). However, for the materials my client
has already furnished and which have already been fabricated and incorporated into the improvements, is there any method or mechanism to demand that information from the fabricator so my client can possibly preserve his lien rights, serve a NTO, record a lien,
etc.? I know I can sue the fabricator and get the info via discovery but that will take too long for purposes of trying to preserve lien rights. Thank you all for your input. -Andrea</p>
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