[CLC-Discussion] Fraudulent Lien after Partial Satisfaction

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Tue Apr 11 07:19:21 PDT 2023


Although the rest of section 713.31 is less clear, subsection (3) on the
criminal aspect says “Any person who willfully files a fraudulent lien, as
defined in this section
.”  That certainly implies that the intent is
determined at the time the lien was recorded.

 

Chuck

 

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No precedent on this that I'm aware of, but I have had clients come to me a
couple of times after having recorded a lien that I've determined includes
improper amounts and had the clients sign and file a partial release with
language about the amounts being inadvertently included (assuming that they
were legitimately unaware that they had included improper amounts. But I've
never fought the battle on those all the way through.

 

 

I do think that the intent (or gross negligence) element of the fraudulent
lien is to be measured at the time of signing and recording the lien. So if
it's "fraudulent" when recorded it's likely fraudulent under the statute.
But in the instances I described, I determined that the clients did not have
that "intent" and so it could and should be fixed.

 

 

 

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Does anyone know of a case where a lienor recorded what was a fraudulent
lien and later recorded a partial satisfaction but the original lien was
still determined to be fraudulent so the entire lien was invalid?  Yes,
hoping someone has researched this issue recently and can save the research
time.  Thanks!

 

Chuck

 

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.

Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal
Services, P.L.

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Yulee, FL  32097

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