[CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
Fred Dudley
dudley at mylicenselaw.com
Thu Jan 8 06:23:00 PST 2015
Violation of public policy; the contract is illegal. All Section 489.128 added to the law was when it was amended after the Castro case to allow the OWNER to enforce the contract, thus changing the contract from void to voidable by the owner.
Fred R. Dudley, Partner
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From: Weintraub, Lee [mailto:lweintraub at bplegal.com]
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To: Fred Dudley; Gibbons, Michael
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Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
Under what authority?
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From: Fred Dudley [mailto:dudley at mylicenselaw.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 9:19 AM
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Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
BUT if a local license is required for such work, the failure be licensed may still be a defense to a lien.
Fred R. Dudley, Partner
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
Dudley, Sellers & Healy, P. L.
SunTrust Financial Center, Suite 301
3522 Thomasville Road
Tallahassee, Florida 32308
Cell: (850) 294-3471
Direct: (850)692-6368
dudley at mylicenselaw.com
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From: Gibbons, Michael [mailto:Michael.Gibbons at lowndes-law.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 9:06 AM
To: Weintraub, Lee
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
This has always been my understanding and practice. 489.128 has no application unless scope of work falls under the defined scopes of "contractor" under definitions of Ch. 489. You won't find painting or flooring installation under definition of contractor at 489.
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> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Weintraub, Lee <lweintraub at bplegal.com> wrote:
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> 713.02, which deprives unlicensed contractors of liens, references 489.128, which only requires a license "required by this part." "This part" only requires state licenses. I don't think a local license requirement is relevant to the analysis of whether one can lien.
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> Fred Dudley
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:52 AM
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> I believe that either a state OR local license is required for such improvements, subject to the $1,000 "handyman" exemption found in s. 489.103(9); however, since the contract price exceeds this amount, that exemption is not applicable.
>
> I suggest that the local licensing requirements be considered.
>
> Fred R. Dudley, Partner
> Board Certified Construction Lawyer
> Dudley, Sellers & Healy, P. L.
> SunTrust Financial Center, Suite 301
> 3522 Thomasville Road
> Tallahassee, Florida 32308
> Cell: (850) 294-3471
> Direct: (850)692-6368
> dudley at mylicenselaw.com
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> Gibbons, Michael
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:00 PM
> To: Sean A. Mickley
> Cc: clc-discussion at lists.flabarrpptl.org
> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
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> If the scope of work doesn't require a state license but the handyman is doing work improving the property (e.g. Painting, carpet or tile install) the work would be lienable regardless of non-state licensure under Ch. 489.
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>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:23 PM, Sean A. Mickley <smickley at gouldcooksey.com> wrote:
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>> Does a handyman performing repairs and improvements in excess of $2,500 which do not require a license have lien rights on the property?
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>> I understand that florida law requires a contractor be licensed in order to lien property, but it does not require a license for material men or laborers to lien the property. Arguably, the handyman is a hybrid between the two. I would appreciate any insight on this issue.
>>
>> My initial conclusion is that the handyman does not have lien rights but I'd like to gather your collective thoughts.
>>
>> Sean A. Mickley, Esq.
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