[CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:

[Fred Dudley]

EXCEPT that many local jurisdictions require a local license for such work.

Fred R. Dudley, Partner
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
Dudley, Sellers & Healy, P. L.
SunTrust Financial Center, Suite 301
3522 Thomasville Road
Tallahassee, Florida 32308
Cell: (850) 294-3471
Direct: (850)692-6368
dudley at mylicenselaw.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Weintraub, Lee [mailto:lweintraub at bplegal.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:26 AM
To: Sean A. Mickley; Fred Dudley
Cc: Gibbons, Michael; clc-discussion at lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:

correct



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-----Original Message-----
From: Sean A. Mickley [mailto:smickley at gouldcooksey.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:20 AM
To: Fred Dudley
Cc: Weintraub, Lee; Gibbons, Michael; clc-discussion at lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:

A person or entity does not need to be licensed to perform tile work, painting, or carpet installation, correct? Those scopes of work are certainly improvements but do not require licensure. It is my understanding based on my reading of the statute that a person or entity performing such work may lean the property is not paid regardless of licensure.

Sean A. Mickley, Esq.
Gould Cooksey Fennell, P.A.
979 Beachland Blvd.
Vero Beach, FL 32963
772-231-1100

On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:58 AM, "Fred Dudley" <dudley at mylicenselaw.com> wrote:

> Agreed; that was amended several years ago to accommodate the paving contractors. However, without either a state or local license to make improvements (or the exemption I pointed out), the work would constitute ULA, which is also a crime.
>
> Fred R. Dudley, Partner
> Board Certified Construction Lawyer
> Dudley, Sellers & Healy, P. L.
> SunTrust Financial Center, Suite 301
> 3522 Thomasville Road
> Tallahassee, Florida 32308
> Cell: (850) 294-3471
> Direct: (850)692-6368
> dudley at mylicenselaw.com
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weintraub, Lee [mailto:lweintraub at bplegal.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:58 AM
> To: Fred Dudley; Gibbons, Michael; Sean A. Mickley
> Cc: clc-discussion at lists.flabarrpptl.org
> Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
>
> 713.02, which deprives unlicensed contractors of liens, references 489.128, which only requires a license "required by this part."  "This part" only requires state licenses.  I don't think a local license requirement is relevant to the analysis of whether one can lien.
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> Construction Law and Litigation Practice Group
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of 
> Fred Dudley
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:52 AM
> To: Gibbons, Michael; Sean A. Mickley
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>
> I believe that either a state OR local license is required for such improvements, subject to the $1,000 "handyman" exemption found in s. 489.103(9); however, since the contract price exceeds this amount, that exemption is not applicable.
>
> I suggest that the local licensing requirements be considered.
>
> Fred R. Dudley, Partner
> Board Certified Construction Lawyer
> Dudley, Sellers & Healy, P. L.
> SunTrust Financial Center, Suite 301
> 3522 Thomasville Road
> Tallahassee, Florida 32308
> Cell: (850) 294-3471
> Direct: (850)692-6368
> dudley at mylicenselaw.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of 
> Gibbons, Michael
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:00 PM
> To: Sean A. Mickley
> Cc: clc-discussion at lists.flabarrpptl.org
> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
>
> If the scope of work doesn't require a state license but the handyman is doing work improving the property (e.g. Painting, carpet or tile install) the work would be lienable regardless of non-state licensure under Ch. 489.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:23 PM, Sean A. Mickley <smickley at gouldcooksey.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does a handyman performing repairs and improvements in excess of $2,500 which do not require a license have lien rights on the property?
>>
>> I understand that florida law requires a contractor be licensed in order to lien property, but it does not require a license for material men or laborers to lien the property. Arguably, the handyman is a hybrid between the two. I would appreciate any insight on this issue.
>>
>> My initial conclusion is that the handyman does not have lien rights but I'd like to gather your collective thoughts.
>>
>> Sean A. Mickley, Esq.
>> Gould Cooksey Fennell, P.A.
>> 979 Beachland Blvd.
>> Vero Beach, FL 32963
>> 772-231-1100
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